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What experiences have you all had in training your Apso? To be honest I have never really trained mine in any way at all but even still, they are pretty good when I give a command although I have to admit that when they want to be stubborn, they will be! But they are really good on the lead when we are out.
kimpossible
01-06-08, 08:44 AM
Raven was a dream to train. From 12 weeks old she was attending obedience training classes and if she doesn't make it as a show dog, she;'ll definitely make it as an obedience dog!
Wicket was also trained from 12 weeks. At first he was a little reluctant to walk, then got into the swing of it. He was perect at all of it and then when they started advising me to enter him in shows, hey presto, the stubborness of lhasas kicks in. He now doesn't walk when he's at training. Although he'll walk for recalls and he'll walk up to the ring. It's really frustrating. You walk him up to the ring perfectly. He sits like an angel at my left hand side and then when i tell him to heel, he just stays sitting. The folk at the training class think it's very funny. They know he can do it but he just doesn't want to. To get him walking we've tried:
- treats (but if there is no treat there is no walking)
- toys (sqeaking them an dthrowing them to see if he'll chase them and move)
- ignoring him
- pulling him
- changing direction to where ever he wants to go
- letting him lead but that invariably leads to me sitting in my seat becasue that is where he wants to be!
The thing is, he really enjoys going to the class and not walking. It's his idea of fun!
Raven was a dream to train. From 12 weeks old she was attending obedience training classes and if she doesn't make it as a show dog, she;'ll definitely make it as an obedience dog!
Wicket was also trained from 12 weeks. At first he was a little reluctant to walk, then got into the swing of it. He was perect at all of it and then when they started advising me to enter him in shows, hey presto, the stubborness of lhasas kicks in. He now doesn't walk when he's at training. Although he'll walk for recalls and he'll walk up to the ring. It's really frustrating. You walk him up to the ring perfectly. He sits like an angel at my left hand side and then when i tell him to heel, he just stays sitting. The folk at the training class think it's very funny. They know he can do it but he just doesn't want to. To get him walking we've tried:
- treats (but if there is no treat there is no walking)
- toys (sqeaking them an dthrowing them to see if he'll chase them and move)
- ignoring him
- pulling him
- changing direction to where ever he wants to go
- letting him lead but that invariably leads to me sitting in my seat becasue that is where he wants to be!
The thing is, he really enjoys going to the class and not walking. It's his idea of fun!
Awww I think if I was stood watching, I'd be giggling for fun :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
dieselsmummy
02-06-08, 01:19 AM
Well, Diesel never went outside til he was ten months old, so that was a trauma in itself...
It took me a whole day of lead on, give treat, lead off......lead on, walk two paces, give treat, lead off etc...and at about 9pm that night, me and Xiola walked him up the road and I felt like the first man on the moon!!! :lol: I was bursting with pride!!! :D
Anyway, 3 months later, me and Xiola decided training classes would be the way forward.......
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So, at class number one, we sat and watched all the other dogs, and Diesel looked quite interested. Xiola was keen, so I suggested she did the training. MISTAKE NUMBER ONE.
At class number two, I felt very optimistic. MISTAKE NUMBER TWO.
So, I sat at the side and Xiola joined the circle of 6 others...."Walk clockwise please" said the trainer.....so 5 nice little doggys all did....and there, right in the middle, stood defiantly, was Diesel.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: (think of the "Psycho" theme at this point, for added effect) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
His little skinny body squared up like a little white Oxo cube...ears suddenly developed points...like "Stripe" from The Gremlins......the top lip did a curl a bit like Elvis Presley....and I swear I heard him mutter "Not on your Nelly"
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
By now, little Diesels paws had clearly ejected their very own supply of superglue, so his feet were stuck very firmly in that one place.
The top lip quivered a bit more to reveal a top set of little gnashers and he made a noise a bit like a passing motorbike.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
"Just carry on walking" said the groomer to Xiola. "Please try" I willed silently.
MISTAKE NUMBER THREE.
Diesel, now realising WE thought WE could tell HIM what to do, decided to take fast and evasive action.
Checking over his shoulder for a fully captive audience, and quickly sizing up the fact that all the other dogs were clearly senseless to be doing as THEY were told...he went in for an Oscar winning performance of "I Am A Starfish" (I doubt you've heard of the film, he invented it at that very moment, you see)
So, with all his furry little might, young Diesel hit the floor. Legs, all four of them, spread out at right angles to his body, belly on the floor, and looking like he was trying to eat the floor at the same time. Still making the high-pitched-motorbike-engine-type noise.
The trainer, by this point obviously flustered at such a little furry dogs complete and utter defiance, proceeded to take the lead from Xiola to show he could do a better job.
MISTAKE NUMBERS FOUR FIVE AND SIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:o :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Diesel decided now was the optimum time to put in the Grande Finale.....so, he did the "death roll" like crocodiles do...spinning around on the floor like the Tazmanian Devil itself...I swear he had red beams shooting from his eyes and horns growing under his ears......
At this point, I quickly realised that of he could wreak such havoc in the first five minutes of a class, he was not suited to classes.
I think at this point too the trainer had hoped that was what I was thinking...
I took Diesel, and sat him at the side, to watch the other dogs...who, incidentally all had their tails between their legs and were looking like they wished they never came.....
We were ever so polite at the end of the class...but I think he knew as well as both me and Diesel did, that he wouldnt be seeing us again..........
kimpossible
02-06-08, 10:09 AM
Awww I think if I was stood watching, I'd be giggling for fun :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You wouldn't be alone. If there are any new folk to the class, they put wicket up in the first group so that they can see that their dog isn't the worst. Folk always end up laughing at him. Poor boy!
kimpossible
02-06-08, 10:14 AM
Nancy! He sounds like Wicket! It's just brilliant how they can stick to a polished surface!!!
The problem with lhasas is that they are way to smart to go to obedience classes (except Raven - she's quite dumb and so loves it). They've got an independent streak that kicks in. They'll do what you ask if they want to, but they won't do it just becuase you ask!
dieselsmummy
02-06-08, 04:00 PM
Well, Diesel never went outside til he was ten months old, so that was a trauma in itself...
It took me a whole day of lead on, give treat, lead off......lead on, walk two paces, give treat, lead off etc...and at about 9pm that night, me and Xiola walked him up the road and I felt like the first man on the moon!!! :lol: I was bursting with pride!!! :D
Anyway, 3 months later, me and Xiola decided training classes would be the way forward.......
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So, at class number one, we sat and watched all the other dogs, and Diesel looked quite interested. Xiola was keen, so I suggested she did the training. MISTAKE NUMBER ONE.
At class number two, I felt very optimistic. MISTAKE NUMBER TWO.
So, I sat at the side and Xiola joined the circle of 6 others...."Walk clockwise please" said the trainer.....so 5 nice little doggys all did....and there, right in the middle, stood defiantly, was Diesel.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: (think of the "Psycho" theme at this point, for added effect) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
His little skinny body squared up like a little white Oxo cube...ears suddenly developed points...like "Stripe" from The Gremlins......the top lip did a curl a bit like Elvis Presley....and I swear I heard him mutter "Not on your Nelly"
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
By now, little Diesels paws had clearly ejected their very own supply of superglue, so his feet were stuck very firmly in that one place.
The top lip quivered a bit more to reveal a top set of little gnashers and he made a noise a bit like a passing motorbike.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
"Just carry on walking" said the groomer to Xiola. "Please try" I willed silently.
MISTAKE NUMBER THREE.
Diesel, now realising WE thought WE could tell HIM what to do, decided to take fast and evasive action.
Checking over his shoulder for a fully captive audience, and quickly sizing up the fact that all the other dogs were clearly senseless to be doing as THEY were told...he went in for an Oscar winning performance of "I Am A Starfish" (I doubt you've heard of the film, he invented it at that very moment, you see)
So, with all his furry little might, young Diesel hit the floor. Legs, all four of them, spread out at right angles to his body, belly on the floor, and looking like he was trying to eat the floor at the same time. Still making the high-pitched-motorbike-engine-type noise.
The trainer, by this point obviously flustered at such a little furry dogs complete and utter defiance, proceeded to take the lead from Xiola to show he could do a better job.
MISTAKE NUMBERS FOUR FIVE AND SIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:o :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Diesel decided now was the optimum time to put in the Grande Finale.....so, he did the "death roll" like crocodiles do...spinning around on the floor like the Tazmanian Devil itself...I swear he had red beams shooting from his eyes and horns growing under his ears......
At this point, I quickly realised that of he could wreak such havoc in the first five minutes of a class, he was not suited to classes.
I think at this point too the trainer had hoped that was what I was thinking...
I took Diesel, and sat him at the side, to watch the other dogs...who, incidentally all had their tails between their legs and were looking like they wished they never came.....
We were ever so polite at the end of the class...but I think he knew as well as both me and Diesel did, that he wouldnt be seeing us again..........
Kim, stubborn doesnt quite cover it!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: he he...................this has been written and told brilliantly Nancy, so much so that I felt as though I was there with you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ................and diesel was saying.....................
1. Dont you dare take me in there
2. Mum, Im telling you!
3. Right thats it
4. Leave me be
5. I warned you
6. Serves yoursefl right, now will you listen to me
huff huff, huff huff, huff huff
dieselsmummy
02-06-08, 09:37 PM
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Well, Lia, he certainly put us all in our place!!!!!!!!!! I still shudder when I drive past the hall now!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :o :D :D :D I bet they see my little red car coming down the road and lock the doors to be on the safe side!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Well, Lia, he certainly put us all in our place!!!!!!!!!! I still shudder when I drive past the hall now!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :o :D :D :D I bet they see my little red car coming down the road and lock the doors to be on the safe side!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: all you have to do is give the 'queens wave' and a silly grin :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
dieselsmummy
03-06-08, 12:25 AM
:o Ive had an even better idea!!! Stick a life-size cardboard cut-out picture of Diesel on the nearby speed camera!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
dieselsmummy
03-06-08, 12:32 AM
:o Ive had an even better idea!!! Stick a life-size cardboard cut-out picture of Diesel on the nearby speed camera!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LIKE THIS ONE???!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg174/dieselsmummy/111-1.jpg
pmsl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: xxx
mollymoomoo
03-06-08, 08:59 AM
:D :Dhahaha, me too!! :lol: :lol: :lol: xxx
dieselsmummy
03-06-08, 01:06 PM
Do you think it will scare them????????????!!!!!!!!! :P
dieselsmummy
03-06-08, 05:14 PM
.........OR I COULD STICK A BIG POSTER COPY OF THIS TO THE DOORS!!!!!!!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg174/dieselsmummy/023-1-1.jpg
dieselsmummy
03-06-08, 11:20 PM
.............OR THIS ONE???!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg174/dieselsmummy/deez-1.jpg
:D :D :D :D these are absolutely brilliant Nancy, I love them all but my fave out of the funny ones has to be the 2nd one and as you know I love the one of Diesel running anyway :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: brilliant :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: xx
dieselsmummy
04-06-08, 01:03 PM
Clearly I need to get out more..........!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
dieselsmummy
04-06-08, 07:38 PM
...Just showed these to the kids and even they think Im a weirdo now,......... :oops: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...Just showed these to the kids and even they think Im a weirdo now,......... :oops: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and what a big hearted 'weirdo' you are - the nicest 'weirdo' Ive ever come across :D :D :D :D :D xxxxx
dieselsmummy
29-06-08, 03:33 PM
Hehehehehehehe!!! Im just contemplating doing a mock-up photo of Gucci too but really I ought to give him the benefit of the doubt!!! He may be a little angel.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I cant WAIT to see Diesels groomers face when she sees his little sidekick trotting up her driveway ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!
:D Ive got a funny feeling that Gucci will train easily to be honest ......will you be taking him to classes Nancy? xxxxxxxxxx
dieselsmummy
03-07-08, 03:31 PM
Yes Lia I do intend taking him to classes once he is old enough I think it will do him good socially and emotionally.
Yes Lia I do intend taking him to classes once he is old enough I think it will do him good socially and emotionally.
Brilliant Nancy and its the right decision.............get someone to take some pics too :D :D :D :D :D xxxxxxxxx
dieselsmummy
03-07-08, 09:59 PM
Hmmmmmmm............who shall I ask to take pics??? The local Police ASBO Section? Hmmmmmmm.............. :? :? :? :? :? :?
Hmmmmmmm............who shall I ask to take pics??? The local Police ASBO Section? Hmmmmmmm.............. :? :? :? :? :? :?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D he he - Gucci will be fine.............you may not, but Gucci will :lol: :lol: :lol:
dieselsmummy
03-07-08, 11:38 PM
Blimey I hope so!!!!! :D :D Bet Diesels secretly whispering in his ear telling him EXACTLY how to show me up!!!!!!! :D
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