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Bunch
29-05-08, 08:47 AM
Does anyone believe in vaccinating yearly or does anyone believe that your pooche's system can be overloaded? I know there are many views on this so would be interesting to know everyone's views.

I still vaccinate my three once a year and touch wood, they have all been fine. Again, (like the wormer) Lexi is having her jab on Monday instead of in July due to the pending mating xx

MITCHELLA
29-05-08, 12:52 PM
well mines are all vaccinated and up to date, with everything, fleas, wormers, the lot mainly because i live on a street where some of the surrounding neighbours dont bother with there dogs, so they could be carrying anything, id rather be safe than sorry, if i lived somewhere more seculed (say perhaps a house that had an acre of land for the dogs to run free) then perhaps id relax a bit more xx

mollymoomoo
29-05-08, 04:02 PM
I'm in turmoil over this really, just don't know what to do. Molly has always had all her injections and boosters up to this year but after reading up quite alot about over vaccinating I decided not to this year but it's preying on my mind abit. My vet is brilliant but thinks that titre testing is a waste of money or at least she did when I asked about it last booster time ! Now to Ebony, she should have had her 2nd booster recently but I'm still trying to decide what to do :? Everything else is up to date eg, worming but I just can't decide what's best where the boosters are concerned. xxx

MITCHELLA
29-05-08, 04:24 PM
must say im thinking the same about the boosters, cos ive read so many different views on it in magazines,papers etc but cos i go to the dog shows and some of the dogs in my area arnt vaccinated id rather they were covered, if heard so many stories of dogs coming down with something at shows, maybe im just worry to much xx

mollymoomoo
29-05-08, 04:34 PM
No I don't think you worry too much at all! Yours mix with loads of different dogs at the shows and it's probably best to safe than sorry. Mine don't mix with too many dogs, really only ones they meet on walks but it's still niggling away at me that I might not be doing the right thing by not having the boosters every year. Such a worry! xxx

kimpossible
30-05-08, 12:10 PM
My two have to be kept up to date with their boosters. We go to obedience classes with them on wednesday and thursday nights and if your boosters aren't up to date then you're out of there!

I think that if your dog is mixing with dogs that you don't know then it's better to be safe than sorry. I don't know whether it is a factor but I stay next to a nature reserve where most dogs run loose. There are deer and foxes and all sorts of animals there and I'm always worried they might pick something up (particullarly parvo).

Have any of your dogs ever had kennel cough even though they were vaccinateds against it? Is this common? It happened to my sisters rottie. He had been vaccinated, everything was up to date, he went into the kennels for a week and came back with kennel cough. It makes me very wary of putting my two in kennels so I think i'd be better to leave them with my mum or someone.

MITCHELLA
30-05-08, 12:14 PM
years ago with my last labrador, we had him vaccinated for kennel cough before he went into kennels as we were going abroad for our holidays and he still caught it, the vet said there were different strains of kennel cough?? xx

Bunch
30-05-08, 01:15 PM
Mmmm very mixed views here and I can understand everything you all say - its a bit of a dilemma really.

Lexi has to have hers this time due to the pending mating for obvious reasons but I also worry about the different dogs that me and my three come across when 'free roaming' so I think that its best to keep them vaccinated for this reason only.

Also there are certain areas whereby your pooch has to vaccinated up to date to be able to enter ie kennels.

I would never put my three into what I call 'everyday run of the mill' kennels for many reasons. I found a Dog Hotel in Leeds which are double glazed bungalows - posh beds, tv's, music, air-con, heating, taken out 4 times a day for walks and 'free roaming', checked on about 5 times a day and ticked off and signed etc etc - now I might consider this if I was ever stuck (they have doggy day creches too) but again, they insist vaccinations have to be up to date.

As for Kennel Cough, I have heard many times that even though your pooch is protected, they can still come out 'coughing' so I just think 'whats the point then'.

Yes, this most certainly could be a big debate as I've also read so many different advice columns on this too.

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muggie2k
30-05-08, 08:30 PM
Mine have had all their vaccinations and wormed and flea protected. I'd rather be safe than sorry. They're always at the park where there's other dogs and rabbits and birds. Margaretxxx

Bunch
30-05-08, 08:34 PM
Mine have had all their vaccinations and wormed and flea protected. I'd rather be safe than sorry. They're always at the park where there's other dogs and rabbits and birds. Margaretxxx
:!: :!: :!: yes you are correct Margaret as with the birds, as much as birds are lovely to look at, they can carry all sorts and I think it's the bird droppings that are more of a danger if anything :shock:

cocogal
10-06-08, 06:01 AM
Coco is actually my husband's dog who became mine now that I'm her main caregiver after marrying my husband. He got her when she was a few months old from a home breeder. She didn't have any paperwork and my husband doesn't even know whether she got her puppy shots. Anyway, she's now 9 years old and very healthy. Last year, I took her for her first vaccination at the vet. It was the 5-in-1 vaccine and the vet gave us Drontal. I was supposed to have brought her in for microchipping (microchipping is mandatory in Singapore since late last year), but I chickened out when the vet said the needle used for microchipping was considerably thicker than that used for vaccinations. I got her vaccinated instead of microchipping, and had to explain to my husband why I thought it was necessary to give her that jab. True we all know that they tell us dogs should be vaccinated yearly, but given that Coco doesn't socialize with other dogs that much and that she has been healthy and strong all the 9 years of her life (other than that cornea infection which I heard is quite a common problem with dogs like Lhasas and Shitzus) WITHOUT going to the vet unless she had to, why does she need the jab now? Especially when she's so old... She wasn't spayed when she was a puppy and even had 2 young ones who are no longer with us. She's healthy, happy, strong, and active, so why does she need jabs? My husband asked.

When it was almost time for that annual checkup this year, I did a lot of research online about the pros and cons of vaccinating our dogs, and decided not to vaccinate her this year. I sent her in for a physicial checkup as well as full blood, faecal, and urine tests. The vet said that Coco was healthy and normal. Thank goodness!! What made me worry though was that her blood and urine tests showed a higher than normal value of nitrate which the vet said was most probably due to Coco's meat intake. But I give Coco bits of chicken and hardboiled egg with rice, carrots, peas and potatoes and her main meals. The vet said maybe cut down on chicken and egg... Then what about the folks who feed their dogs mainly meat? I saw on a few Lhasa breeder sites that they fed their Lhasas meat and bones. Surely those dogs would get "abnormal values"???

Bunch
11-06-08, 10:23 AM
Hi Lydia

I agree that if you feel that there is no need to vaccinate on a regular basis as Coco is 100% healthy then that is your decision and only you know yourself whats best for your pooch.

All dogs are different and some can tolerate more than others. High levels of protein is not good for Lhasas and can play a big part. Although the food topic should be discussed in another section, a short reply will hopefully help you in answer to your post. Lamb is alot lower in protein than chicken so check the level of protein in her dried food first before giving other foods that are high in protein. This will help Im sure xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Keris
27-06-08, 10:22 PM
This is a subject which is open to debate by owners & vets.

As you have to appreciate,
that when you go to your vets,
you are walking into a business.

Although these people are there to help your animals,
they also have to make a living.

Now there has been huge debate which has been going on for quite a few years now,
should you boost every year.

Unless your canine is a working dog,
then they do not have to be boosted every single year,
but every third year.

If you live rural where there is a higher proportion of rats.
Then it is highly recommend that you keep Lepto & parvo up todate.

Welis disease, is contracted from urine of rats.

Yet for pet passports you have to boost every year.

keris-lhasa.com
keris-lhasa.co.uk

Parisaire
27-06-08, 10:33 PM
I have all my animals done every year, and to be honest I don't think too much about it I just do it.
Now when I did worry was when I had to take my daughter for her 1st MMR jab now that scared me.
xx

kimpossible
28-06-08, 06:08 AM
I have all my animals done every year, and to be honest I don't think too much about it I just do it.
Now when I did worry was when I had to take my daughter for her 1st MMR jab now that scared me.
xx

Don't worry about the MMR jag. I've had mine 5 times I think - and i'm fine (apart from being a bit daft sometimes!). I somehow managed to get mine loads of time but our doctor always said "what's the harm in being sure?" but that was before the autism thing.

Bunch
28-06-08, 08:33 AM
I always innoculate my three every year as part of the norm but for me its sensible because Im rural and we have foxes running around everywhere. Also as you all know, I take my three on the moors regularly to free roam so for me, it makes sense.

Many years ago, there was none of this worry. Even down to kiddies - innoculations were paramount without the 'worry' but in today's society, the 'experts' have found this, that and the other and advise us all which innoculations are safe and which are not. Now it's the same with our pooches. I look at this way, if a person is on prescribed medication for a length of time, it can 'wear off' and become less effective as the body becomes used to it.................so when a dog is vaccinated, it HAS to 'wear off' towards the end of that year which means another vaccine is needed to 'boost' the effectiveness................hence the name 'Booster'. This all might come across a bit 'back to front' but I know what Im trying to say ;) ..........only my view as I see it :P

kimpossible
28-06-08, 07:33 PM
I always innoculate my three every year as part of the norm but for me its sensible because Im rural and we have foxes running around everywhere. Also as you all know, I take my three on the moors regularly to free roam so for me, it makes sense.

Many years ago, there was none of this worry. Even down to kiddies - innoculations were paramount without the 'worry' but in today's society, the 'experts' have found this, that and the other and advise us all which innoculations are safe and which are not. Now it's the same with our pooches. I look at this way, if a person is on prescribed medication for a length of time, it can 'wear off' and become less effective as the body becomes used to it.................so when a dog is vaccinated, it HAS to 'wear off' towards the end of that year which means another vaccine is needed to 'boost' the effectiveness................hence the name 'Booster'. This all might come across a bit 'back to front' but I know what Im trying to say ;) ..........only my view as I see it :P

A wee bit off topic but ...

My sister had her first boy 2 and half years ago and she wasn't allowed to eat this that and the other, but she was allowed her favourite food - ice cream. She had her second son in december and she wasn't allowed any of it at all as it had been deemed too dangerous for the growing baby! What did women do years ago when they were pregnant, and their weans turned out ok!

Bunch
28-06-08, 08:09 PM
I always innoculate my three every year as part of the norm but for me its sensible because Im rural and we have foxes running around everywhere. Also as you all know, I take my three on the moors regularly to free roam so for me, it makes sense.

Many years ago, there was none of this worry. Even down to kiddies - innoculations were paramount without the 'worry' but in today's society, the 'experts' have found this, that and the other and advise us all which innoculations are safe and which are not. Now it's the same with our pooches. I look at this way, if a person is on prescribed medication for a length of time, it can 'wear off' and become less effective as the body becomes used to it.................so when a dog is vaccinated, it HAS to 'wear off' towards the end of that year which means another vaccine is needed to 'boost' the effectiveness................hence the name 'Booster'. This all might come across a bit 'back to front' but I know what Im trying to say ;) ..........only my view as I see it :P

A wee bit off topic but ...

My sister had her first boy 2 and half years ago and she wasn't allowed to eat this that and the other, but she was allowed her favourite food - ice cream. She had her second son in december and she wasn't allowed any of it at all as it had been deemed too dangerous for the growing baby! What did women do years ago when they were pregnant, and their weans turned out ok!
Exactly my point!!! xxxxxxxx

bigmac
28-07-08, 08:16 PM
both of mine have boosters yearly, flea, wormed, fizz has a passport so is rabies free!! Maggie is the next to have passport, I am also going to have inj against kennel cough. I am frightened about parvo so have inj up to date.

Bunch
29-07-08, 11:44 AM
both of mine have boosters yearly, flea, wormed, fizz has a passport so is rabies free!! Maggie is the next to have passport, I am also going to have inj against kennel cough. I am frightened about parvo so have inj up to date.
Is there a kennel cough jab then Cheryl? I was under the impression that it was done via drops in the nostrils!!?? xxx