How to shut up a lhasa apso

[kimpossible]

Please can someone please help! I've had this problem for the past week or so and I think i'm going to go insane! Raven keeps waking me up at 4 in the morning with her barking. It's not like she's barking at something it s just bark - bark - bark - bark - ... It's the same bark as if she's shouting mum - mum - mum - ... She's driving me insane. It starts at 4am and continues til I go in the shower at 7. If I ignore her, she keeps going, if i go down to see her she shuts up while I'm there then starts again as soon as I leave. I left the doors open last night so that she could come into our room if she wanted to in the morning, but still, she just came in the room and started barking. It's driving me crazy. Chris and Wicket - typical men - sleep through it and I'm left with the big bags under my eyes because of it. She doesn't want out, I've tried that one. She doesn't want to play. She just wants to wake me up!

How can I shut her up? If I tell her to be quiet, she barks louder. She's got a sonic bark and it's so loud. Argh!!!

Please help.

[adklhasa]

Have you tried a water gun? or water bottle? It works my crew. A few sprays and they learn if they don't want water in their face they better be quiet.

or put ear pugs in your ears.

[Bunch]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: sorry for laughing here but things like this just dont bother me - unless its when Im on the phone because I cant hear ;) ;). Lexi's is quite sonic sounding too and Honey can be double sonic when she gets going but to be honest Ive never really suffered from constant barking in this sort of situation - unless of course they can hear something and they warn us all but this is different.

Sounds like she just wants Mummy around her all the time. It's as if she is saying "well Im awake so get up - I want your attention"...........maybe you could try Bridget's idea with the water spray pistol!!! Lhasas are very much companion dogs and thrive on company but I have to say that you cant let this get out of hand as you will not only end up with Raven controlling the roost but you will have 'bags' down to your kneecaps :lol: :lol: :lol: good luck ;) :P :P xxxxxxxxxxx

[dieselsmummy]

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Thats made me laugh!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Aw bless her!!!
Hehehehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheeeeeeeee!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :D :D :D :D :D :D
Sorry I havent got any ideas at all......Diesel only does this if he needs to.
Xiola texted me while I was at the hospital last week to say Diesel was doing something similar!!! He stopped the minute I came home...which unfortunately was at one in the morning!!! :D :D

[Bunch]

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Thats made me laugh!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Aw bless her!!!
Hehehehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheeeeeeeee!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :D :D :D :D :D :D
Sorry I havent got any ideas at all......Diesel only does this if he needs to.
Xiola texted me while I was at the hospital last week to say Diesel was doing something similar!!! He stopped the minute I came home...which unfortunately was at one in the morning!!! :D :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: because our pooches know EXACTLY what they are doing!!!! God bless them :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dieselsmummy]

Which brings me to my point, that they can actually tell the time. Diesel KNOWS when its time for me to go to work, he comes downstairs and gets in his bed...he knows when Im due home cos he is nearly always waiting by the door...he knows that his walk is between 7pm and 8pm and usually signalled by a text...etc etc. He can tell the time!!! :D

[Bunch]

Which brings me to my point, that they can actually tell the time. Diesel KNOWS when its time for me to go to work, he comes downstairs and gets in his bed...he knows when Im due home cos he is nearly always waiting by the door...he knows that his walk is between 7pm and 8pm and usually signalled by a text...etc etc. He can tell the time!!! :D
:lol: Funny you should say this Nancy because mine do too - they know exactly the routine each and every day.........especially when Peter comes home.............they know what follows - dinner and they sit there waiting - with Honey doing the inbetween high pitched bark now and then and its always the same everyday!!! They also know when its time to do toilets in the morning! Weird isn't it xxxxxxxxxx

[Keris]

Just wanted to add something on here about lhasa's and clock watching.

When they are in a routine which is set by the clock,
they know... :lol: :lol:

That is why it is always best to keep their routine to within an hour or so of their normal time.
That way you have time either side of their routine.

Also if you happen to be out, and miss their routine,
this can cause them stress.

Let them know they have a routine,
but it is when you are ready,
not when they dictate to you.

This way it keeps them on their toes,
and not clock watching.

[kimpossible]

Raven was in a routine til we went to blackpool last weekend. She spent the whole night in the hotel room barking and ever since it's been 4am wake up calls for me.

I'm hoping it'll go away soon ... or I learn to sleep through it!

[dieselsmummy]

[quote="Keris"][color=#40BFBF][size=150]Just wanted to add something on here about lhasa's and clock watching.

When they are in a routine which is set by the clock,
they know... :lol: :lol:

That is why it is always best to keep their routine to within an hour or so of their normal time.
That way you have time either side of their routine.

Also if you happen to be out, and miss their routine,
this can cause them stress.

Let them know they have a routine,
but it is when you are ready,
not when they dictate to you.


Good point there, thank you ... I know it sounds silly but I did let Diesel dictate to me before and I never realised I was doing it.
It wasn't until the incident in October when he snapped at a child, and I got him castrated, that the vet had a little word with me. She said she knew I was trying to make up to Diesel for his poor start in life, but now was the time to reel him back in......
I bought some dog behaviour books, and spent many an hour on the phone to his groomer...it was then I realised I had spoilt him in that I hadnt given him clear boundaries.
I was letting him dictate to me, and now he had learnt that he could control a situation by snapping, unless I acted sensibly he would soon do it again.
It was a bitter pill to swallow...I thought I had done my best for him...but in fact I had done so much wrong.
I have never ever had a dog before...

[MITCHELLA]

if i want to chut my pooches up (not that they are really barkers, unless someone is at the door) then i chuck em a pigs ear.................aahhhh silence :D xx

[Bunch]

if i want to chut my pooches up (not that they are really barkers, unless someone is at the door) then i chuck em a pigs ear.................aahhhh silence :D xx
Mine get tripe sticks or one of Burns' treats.............works everytime xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[FosterMom]

Raven was in a routine til we went to blackpool last weekend. She spent the whole night in the hotel room barking and ever since it's been 4am wake up calls for me.

I'm hoping it'll go away soon ... or I learn to sleep through it!

One of my jobs at the Humane Society is the Behavior Helpline. I help people with behavior issues just like this all the time. I might be able to help, at least shed some light as to why Raven is all of a sudden barking at 4 in the morning.

This is assuming Raven is confined downstairs during bedtime and does not sleep in the bedroom with you:

I take it Raven sleeps downstairs and not in bed with you at night. Well when you went away and stayed in the Hotel she got a taste of sleeping in the same room with you (her people) and when you got back home she was back to the old routine of sleeping away from you at night. So she decided she liked sleeping in the room with you better and prefersto have you close at all times, because after all you belong to her. So she decided to test you, so... at 4:00 AM when she started barking you responded to her calls by going downstairs and comforting her.You probably had a worried tone in your voice and she picked up on this. She had you at concerned!!!This is a perfect example of Classical Conditioning, remember Pavlov's salivating dog? Though it seems the tables are turned here Raven has you conditioned to respond to her early morning cries.

My suggestion is to ignore her barking. Do not respond at all. If you have to go downstairs for anything while she is in her barking fit, it is very important that you DO NOT look her in the eye, do not comfort her, just walk by as if she is not barking. If she stops barking before you go back upstairs and only if she stops barking, pat her on the head and tell her, "Thank you for stopping barking." Then do not say another word, do not pet her anymore, do not even look back at her as you walk away. Just a short sweet and on your merry way. She will learn eventually that she is confined to the downstairs at night and she is not getting the desired response from you and eventually she will give up. And don't worry, you will not hurt her feelings. She will be just fine. You can give her all the love she requires later on when you wake up. You set the wakeup time in your house, not the dogs!!!

One other way to stop this behavior is to give up and let her sleep with you in the room at night. :D That is what she would prefer.

I hope this helps

[DAISYBELL]

Oh ha ha Anjeanette how true......... and wouldn't she just love to be next to Mumxx

[MITCHELLA]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: hehehehhehehehehee
oh anj i loved the last bit of your post about the slepping, how very true hehehehheeee xxx

[Bunch]

That all makes sense Anj!!! My 3 sleep literally just outside our bedroom door and they know that they do not come in until hubby gets up at 6.30am. He opens the door and its then they know to enter and then he puts them on our bed and they lay with me until I get up. When we go to bed, they know they cannot come in and lay in their respective places just outside of our bedroom. Honey is directly outside our door, Lexi is next to the office door which is next to our to our room and Bruce is at the top of the stairs opposite our bedroom door - always the same. I always have water there each night for them.

We once tried it where they were on our bed at night (some time ago now) but it didnt work because we were squashed and could'dnt move so then thought this was not to carry on unless we wanted to endure 'broken sleep' each night and this is when it all changed.

Now, all is well and is a routine that we dont even really think about anymore............and we all have a good night's sleep - pooches too! xxxx

[dieselsmummy]

Ho Hum.
Diesel sleeps on my bed every night..unless he is hot and then he goes into the toilet which has laminate flooring and sleeps there. Im far too soft I know, but he does no harm.
Well, unless I turn over in the night without getting his approval first, in which case he goes all out to bite my toes off. :o :o :o

[kimpossible]

Raven was in a routine til we went to blackpool last weekend. She spent the whole night in the hotel room barking and ever since it's been 4am wake up calls for me.

I'm hoping it'll go away soon ... or I learn to sleep through it!

One of my jobs at the Humane Society is the Behavior Helpline. I help people with behavior issues just like this all the time. I might be able to help, at least shed some light as to why Raven is all of a sudden barking at 4 in the morning.

This is assuming Raven is confined downstairs during bedtime and does not sleep in the bedroom with you:

I take it Raven sleeps downstairs and not in bed with you at night. Well when you went away and stayed in the Hotel she got a taste of sleeping in the same room with you (her people) and when you got back home she was back to the old routine of sleeping away from you at night. So she decided she liked sleeping in the room with you better and prefersto have you close at all times, because after all you belong to her. So she decided to test you, so... at 4:00 AM when she started barking you responded to her calls by going downstairs and comforting her.You probably had a worried tone in your voice and she picked up on this. She had you at concerned!!!This is a perfect example of Classical Conditioning, remember Pavlov's salivating dog? Though it seems the tables are turned here Raven has you conditioned to respond to her early morning cries.

My suggestion is to ignore her barking. Do not respond at all. If you have to go downstairs for anything while she is in her barking fit, it is very important that you DO NOT look her in the eye, do not comfort her, just walk by as if she is not barking. If she stops barking before you go back upstairs and only if she stops barking, pat her on the head and tell her, "Thank you for stopping barking." Then do not say another word, do not pet her anymore, do not even look back at her as you walk away. Just a short sweet and on your merry way. She will learn eventually that she is confined to the downstairs at night and she is not getting the desired response from you and eventually she will give up. And don't worry, you will not hurt her feelings. She will be just fine. You can give her all the love she requires later on when you wake up. You set the wakeup time in your house, not the dogs!!!

One other way to stop this behavior is to give up and let her sleep with you in the room at night. :D That is what she would prefer.

I hope this helps

It sounds pretty accurate! I'll give it a try tonight and i'll let you know how I get on. I hope it works!!!

[FosterMom]

kimpossible,

Good Luck. Just be tough and as Caesar Romero from the Dog Whisperer says "Be calm/assertive". It will work. I promise!!!

[FosterMom]

That all makes sense Anj!!! My 3 sleep literally just outside our bedroom door and they know that they do not come in until hubby gets up at 6.30am. He opens the door and its then they know to enter and then he puts them on our bed and they lay with me until I get up. When we go to bed, they know they cannot come in and lay in their respective places just outside of our bedroom. Honey is directly outside our door, Lexi is next to the office door which is next to our to our room and Bruce is at the top of the stairs opposite our bedroom door - always the same. I always have water there each night for them.

We once tried it where they were on our bed at night (some time ago now) but it didnt work because we were squashed and could'dnt move so then thought this was not to carry on unless we wanted to endure 'broken sleep' each night and this is when it all changed.

Now, all is well and is a routine that we dont even really think about anymore............and we all have a good night's sleep - pooches too! xxxx

I unfortunately have allowed my dogs to sleep with me in my bed every night so when Big Daddy (Wayne) comes to sleep over we have to put all doggies on the floor and they become wrestless and noisy where it is hard to fall asleep, then they sneak up when he is asleep. Daddy can't sleep here on a work night 'cause he'll get no sleep. I really should retrain them to sleep on there perfectly comfortable doggie beds. Lord knows I have plenty for them.

You know it's funny that you say they all sleep in their preferred spots, it's the same in my bed at night, Apolo sleeps at my feet, Jaxson is up next to me by the pillows and Zoey sleeps in the middle of the bed below Jaxson. Flower and Buggy sleep on the doggie beds on the floor next to my bed. Although I allowed Flower to sleep with me a few times and I don't have to worry about her falling on the floor anymore I don't want her to get into the habbit of sleeping with me. There is no room. I've said it before, I need a bigger bed. :shock: :D :lol: :o

[Bunch]

That all makes sense Anj!!! My 3 sleep literally just outside our bedroom door and they know that they do not come in until hubby gets up at 6.30am. He opens the door and its then they know to enter and then he puts them on our bed and they lay with me until I get up. When we go to bed, they know they cannot come in and lay in their respective places just outside of our bedroom. Honey is directly outside our door, Lexi is next to the office door which is next to our to our room and Bruce is at the top of the stairs opposite our bedroom door - always the same. I always have water there each night for them.

We once tried it where they were on our bed at night (some time ago now) but it didnt work because we were squashed and could'dnt move so then thought this was not to carry on unless we wanted to endure 'broken sleep' each night and this is when it all changed.

Now, all is well and is a routine that we dont even really think about anymore............and we all have a good night's sleep - pooches too! xxxx

I unfortunately have allowed my dogs to sleep with me in my bed every night so when Big Daddy (Wayne) comes to sleep over we have to put all doggies on the floor and they become wrestless and noisy where it is hard to fall asleep, then they sneak up when he is asleep. Daddy can't sleep here on a work night 'cause he'll get no sleep. I really should retrain them to sleep on there perfectly comfortable doggie beds. Lord knows I have plenty for them.
:lol: :lol: :lol: he he he this is why we stopped it ............no sleep because we cannot maneouvre :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: xxxxxx

[dieselsmummy]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Well theres a fairly simple solution...you just tap them and ask if its OK if you could have a bit of the bed please, thats all!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[FosterMom]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Well theres a fairly simple solution...you just tap them and ask if its OK if you could have a bit of the bed please, thats all!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


It's that simple huh?

[FosterMom]

So How is it going Kim?

[kimpossible]

It's getting better! I've not even bothered going down to her when she starts her barking. I just lie in bed and try to ignore her. She's getting better, it's now between 5 and 5.30 she's starting but this morning she was still asleep when I got up so I got a full night's sleep (hooray!!!). I'm hoping it'll only last another week or so and then she'll be back to normal.

[Bunch]

It's getting better! I've not even bothered going down to her when she starts her barking. I just lie in bed and try to ignore her. She's getting better, it's now between 5 and 5.30 she's starting but this morning she was still asleep when I got up so I got a full night's sleep (hooray!!!). I'm hoping it'll only last another week or so and then she'll be back to normal.
Awww she'll click soon when she realises that 'mum' will not get up to see to her as and when she wants it :D