abby

[adklhasa]

I have to report that Abby will be returning to my house tomorrow. This is the email I got from them today:

took Abby to my vet today and received some very heart breaking news. Abby has what is called Laterally luxating patella grade 4. Grade four being the worst. It is an inherited thing and neither she nor her parents should be bred on any vets advice. I have read all day about it hoping I would find some good news about it but all I have read is bad. Especially the grade 4. She will require an operation and that cost from my vet was around $650.00. Other vets charge up to $1500.00. With this condition she cant be bred nor can she be shown. My plan with her was to show her. As I stated to you.
I don't know which of her parents she has inherited this from but your vet should check all puppies and breeding males and females as I know you would not want to continue to breed any genetic problems in your dogs.
I have cried all day about this because Abby is exactly what I was hoping for except this serious problem. She is well behaved and sweet. Jeff and I talked about it as well as my vet and we have come to the only conclusion. We need to return her to you and I request a full refund of the purchase price ($550.00). My vet said you are welcome to call her and talk to her about it, Her name is Dr. Mary Abarno. She is a vet specialist. Her husband is also a vet (specialist). Her office number is.

I have called my vets who checked out the puppies before they left. I also put this out to some breeds I know. They said it sounds like a miss dx, I would tend to agree. I did my google thing.....If this puppy had a grade 4 luxation it would be lame and not able to walk. I know that when she left here this was not the case. Not sure what the deal is but she is comming home. I never made the promise that she was show quality, she was sold as a pet.

This is the side that I don't like to deal with. I'm giving them their money back and taking her to vets for a once over. ONce I get a clean bill of health she will find a nice new home. i have a person that might like her already. I will not contact them until after I see my vet.

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[kimpossible]

I really hope it's a misdiagnosis. If it is, I would let them know that it is. They might be giving you a bad reputation. What age is abby?

[adklhasa]

Kim
Abby is 10 weeks old. Yes I will be letting them know this. This only the 2 of some 50 puppies that have come back to me, the first was the family made the puppy mean, by leaving it with their 3 yr old alone and he tormented her.

Right now I just want her back.

[mollymoomoo]

I saw this earlier and was just in the middle of typing a reply when my mum came round so I had to abandon it! I was going to say, thank goodness that she's coming home to you, it's upsetting all round but at least you know that she won't be passed on or worse. I'm sure once you get her home, she be fine, how can a puppy that has been vet checked before leaving suddenly develop a serious problem, it doesn't add up! You'll be able to find her another home, one where she's really wanted . I would have thought it sensible of them to at least get a 2nd opinion before asking you for a refund. xxx

[adklhasa]

Yes I agree with you there. I have my mom calling them to see if she can meet them later today. I don’t care if mom has to drive to their house to get her. I want her home with us right now. My head is foggy and glad that work is not busy today as my mind is else where.

I have pictures in my head of her being stepped on by one of the horses.

I just spoke to my vet, she said that the only way that Abby would have this is if she was hurt. Once I get her home my vet said to call and they will get her in to check her out.

I have drafted a contract for Abby’s return but will only have it given if Abby is walking. If she is lame I will be sueing them for her purchase price and medical costs. My vet will go to court stating that she healthy when she was seen on 6/14/08 and this was caused by an accident.

I don’t want to jump to conclusions.
I will keep everyone posted.

[mollymoomoo]

Oh I really hope she's ok, yes the sooner you can get her home, the sooner she can be seen by your vet and hopefully have your worries eased. Fingers crossed that everything is ok and do let us know, I know I for one am worrying about her too xxx

[wol]

OMG Bridget how awful and worrying for you, I really hope Abby is ok when you get her home and hasnt been hurt by a horse or anything of the like.
please keep us all posted as to how she is xxx Paula

[adklhasa]

My mother just left here to get her. She has the contract and instructions not to return her money if the puppy is limping as she was not that way on Saturday.

Mom will stop back at work once she gets back into town. They are meeting about 1.5 hours from here so she does not have to make the full drive.

Based on my last email from them last night, she said that Abby was walking around looking at her with those eyes of hers. Got my fingers crossed. I plan to give her the biggest hug I can when I see her.

This is the bad part of what I do. So far I've only miss judged 2 people.

Will keep you all posted.

[MITCHELLA]

o crickey this isnt so good ive just read your other post saying how pleased the vet and owners were with theyre puppy, id take the pup back and get a second opinion by a different vet just to be sure
im so sorry this one didnt work out, the only good thing is at least the pup is coming back to you and the owners didnt just give it away or sell it on as some folks do
i do hope the pup is ok xxx

[adklhasa]

Thank you, she will be going to the vets tomorrow to be looked over and maybe to the other vet in town just to be sure.

They want their money back this is why they contacted me. I'm glad for this, she will have the best care. I will keep her at the house and make sure all is well with her.

Thanks everyone, it's nice to have a place to talk about this.

[MITCHELLA]

thats what we're all here for, our lhasas and each other :D xxx

[Bunch]

Hi Bridget

Well Im absolutely gobsmacked at this!!! Ive only just posted about Maija and got the shock of my life when I read this. Sorry Ive been busy today so only just caught up.

This is like a horror story and I dont blame you one bit for feeling like this - I'd be just the same. I cannot believe that this person has ranted on and on about Abby then to sharply and very conveniently 'slot in' that she wanted a refund! Sounds like money, money, money to me rather than the welfare of Abby - if Abby was geuinely loved by these people, they would have telephoned and spoken with you amicably to try to sort the matter out BUT...........Abby left you in perfect health so something has gone wrong here - nevertheless, accident or not, as I say, if they genuinely loved her, they would not want to be rid of her no matter what the circumstance! I am appalled by their attitude Bridget and you need to stand your ground on this one. We on here, all know how you are with your beloved babies so dont you worry about that!!!

This is a disgusting situation and poor Abby - I just hope she is not in too much pain - if any! It beggars belief that there are such unfeeling people around. Everything must be going around in your head and you will not settle until you have Abby back in your arms..........where at this moment, she obviously belongs.

Its heartbreaking, its unthinkable and its unacceptable.

I am so sorry that this is happening to both you and Abby..................there will be a loving home out there somewhere for her and Im sure it wont be long before she will be settled.

Best wishes, Lia xxxxxx

[adklhasa]

I agree 100%. I'm happy to report that mom just stopped by work with Abby. I took her out of the car and gave her a big hug. Put in the grass to make sure that she was walking okay. I will look over the paper that they gave mom when I get home from work.

But for now she is home safe. I will be making the appointment with my vets shortly.

[mollymoomoo]

So pleased that she's safely back home, your mums a star :D ! Hope everythings ok when you visit the vets and thanks for updating us :) xxx

[Bunch]

I agree 100%. I'm happy to report that mom just stopped by work with Abby. I took her out of the car and gave her a big hug. Put in the grass to make sure that she was walking okay. I will look over the paper that they gave mom when I get home from work.

But for now she is home safe. I will be making the appointment with my vets shortly.
Its not the 'be all and end all' and although you have to concentrate on Abby first and foremost, I do think you have a case here. Im so glad she is back with you. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[MITCHELLA]

its good to hear she's back safe, its a real shame whats happened but id rather have all my dogs back home where they know theyre wanted and loved rather than to be somewhere where theyre not wanted xx

[wol]

Hi Bridget
So glad Abby is home safe and sound with you. :D As Pamela said better her to be with you than with someone who doesnt want her. There will be someone special out there who will give her the love and attention she deserves . xxx

[kimpossible]

I'm so glad she's still walking and is ok. Fingers crossed the vet finds a misdiagnosis. She's better off where she'll be loved and wanted. xx

[dieselsmummy]

Crikey what a nightmare...how awful for you and Abby. My heart goes out to you both. Personally, if I had a pup, and found out it had a condition, I would nurse it and love it all the same and just think it was meant to be. Im thinking about Lia's Barney here, she kept Barney for his last few hours and loved him all the same.
If moneys so important, they should have just bought a lottery ticket, not a pup.

[mollymoomoo]

Me too Nancy, there's no way I would have been able to send her back, even after just a few days and it wouldn't matter what it cost to make her better xxx

[kimpossible]

I thinking getting a pup is like adopting a kid. You wouldn't take a kid back to where you adopted it from becuase they had something up with it. They chose the pup so they should stand by it and help it through.

[adklhasa]

You all are so right. I can’t just take a puppy and send it back just because I don’t want to spend more money on it.

I have a new email that gives more to this, but it’s at home and I’m at work. It was sent before we went and got her. Made my head boil even more last night. I think what makes me maddest is that they hit me with this….no second opinion just taking the word of their friend the “specialist” telling me what I need to do or not do. I googled the dx and then to find that if Abby has what the vet says she should be lame…she’s not lame so where did the vet get off giving this dx?

Either way she is at home with Henry playing and acting like she never left. I had her in the yard to go potty before letting her see the other dogs. I decided to check the flowers out, turned to see where she got too…She had gone to the front fence and under the gate, she had found the other dogs and was saying HI I’m back…what did I miss? She didn’t miss a beat.

She’s goes to the vets for her check up tomorrow. I plan to have my vet call the other vet after the exam and then letting the people know that she is not lame and doesn’t have a problem as long as this is the outcome of the exam.

[FosterMom]

I'm sorry. I just saw this. I have been without Internet for a few days.

I pray to God it's a misdiagnosis. When I first got Apolo the papers said he has a luxating patella grade 4 also. Probably why they gave him to me. When I brought him to the vet she said he did not have a LP at all. His hind limbs were unable to develope properly due to being stuck in a small cage for so long. They were bowed. When he was supposed to be running around playing and developing he was stuck in a cage instead. But with exercise and lot's of love his legs straightened out and one is still a little shorter than the other but he is fine. No LP detected to this day.

Now I do know from working for a vet that his is so common in small breeds and stage 4 just means how much the vet can slip the knee bones apart. As they get older the bone slips out of place more easily and surgery is required. I pray this was a wrong diagnosis and she doesn't have LP. It's very common in puppy mill dogs, the one's you buy from a pet shop are usually puppy mill puppies.

As for the lady that adpoted Abby. She is not a true lover of animals. Sounds like she just wants a mantle piece to show and not to love. I'm glad she gave her back to you.

Good Luck at the vets.

[mollymoomoo]

Aw bless her, I bet she's thrilled to bits to be back with you! :D I really hope she gets a clean bill of health from the vet tomorrow and I agree it's a great idea to get your vet to call their vet and tell it how it is! Fingers crossed for tomorrow!xxx

[Bunch]

You all are so right. I can’t just take a puppy and send it back just because I don’t want to spend more money on it.

I have a new email that gives more to this, but it’s at home and I’m at work. It was sent before we went and got her. Made my head boil even more last night. I think what makes me maddest is that they hit me with this….no second opinion just taking the word of their friend the “specialist” telling me what I need to do or not do. I googled the dx and then to find that if Abby has what the vet says she should be lame…she’s not lame so where did the vet get off giving this dx?

Either way she is at home with Henry playing and acting like she never left. I had her in the yard to go potty before letting her see the other dogs. I decided to check the flowers out, turned to see where she got too…She had gone to the front fence and under the gate, she had found the other dogs and was saying HI I’m back…what did I miss? She didn’t miss a beat.

She’s goes to the vets for her check up tomorrow. I plan to have my vet call the other vet after the exam and then letting the people know that she is not lame and doesn’t have a problem as long as this is the outcome of the exam.
This is an awful situation for you to be in Bridget and you must stand your ground!!! I agree with you to get your vet to contact 'their' vet as soon as possible but even so, as I said previously, I cannot see what problem they have............if a human loves a dog, they love him/her no matter what!!!!! and I must admit that when I just read your post about Abby finding the other ones at the fence, I did fill up!!! None of this is Abby's fault - she is so innocent - always the case isn't it. Best wishes Bridget. Lia xxxxxxxx

[adklhasa]

Thanks all. You give me courage. Looking forward to get home and see her tonight. She's a great little puppy. Makes me smile watching her playing and stealing bones from the big dogs...She even stood up to Indy this morning.

I will be keep you posted on things, want the trip to the vets over with but she's a one person shop and I was lucky to get in this quick.

[Bunch]

Thanks all. You give me courage. Looking forward to get home and see her tonight. She's a great little puppy. Makes me smile watching her playing and stealing bones from the big dogs...She even stood up to Indy this morning.

I will be keep you posted on things, want the trip to the vets over with but she's a one person shop and I was lucky to get in this quick.
You are more than welcome and as you know, you have all our support on this one without a doubt!!! Look forward to reading the outcome Bridget and good luck at the vets xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[dieselsmummy]

Here here. Tell them next time go to Toys R Us and buy a teddy bear instead they can show it off all they want xx

[Bunch]

Here here. Tell them next time go to Toys R Us and buy a teddy bear instead they can show it off all they want xx
:lol: :lol: Thanks Nancy for making this light hearted................it needed it to make Bridget smile :D :D xxx

[dieselsmummy]

Hmmmmm...well thats my opinion on Diesels previous owner!!! :mrgreen: :twisted: Its Briget I feel for, after all she has done, all her love and care and all the effort going into checking her babies are going to good homes...and then this, its disgraceful. Briget is one of the shining stars in the Lhasa World, who actually CARES about her Lhasas and their pups...this infuriates me so much that these people have done this..not only to the pup, bless little Abby, but to Briget too. I hope she finds comfort in knowing we are all 100% behind her at this hard time.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Bunch]

Hmmmmm...well thats my opinion on Diesels previous owner!!! :mrgreen: :twisted: Its Briget I feel for, after all she has done, all her love and care and all the effort going into checking her babies are going to good homes...and then this, its disgraceful. Briget is one of the shining stars in the Lhasa World, who actually CARES about her Lhasas and their pups...this infuriates me so much that these people have done this..not only to the pup, bless little Abby, but to Briget too. I hope she finds comfort in knowing we are all 100% behind her at this hard time.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
here here without a doubt! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[dieselsmummy]

BOO HISS I SPELT HER NAME WRONG!!!
SORRY BRIDGET BRIDGET BRIDGET XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[MITCHELLA]

sure thing we're always here for you xx

[adklhasa]

Here is the email I got last night: This was sent before we went and got her.

Bridget,
I understand you having a busy day on Wed. I will bring her all the way. I was just hoping I could save a little gas and my back pain. You have said you will meet people in your ad and had said you would take some time off from work, so I just thought I would try. As for a check. I cant accept a check. I paid for her in cash and I need cash returned. I have had a lot of problems with checks with people in the past so it is my policy to not accept them from anyone. I'm sure you will understand. If you cant get to a bank before Wed. we can wait until it is more convenient for you.
I want to be perfectly frank right now and tell you I was a bit upset when I read where you wrote you have no hard feelings. Why would you? I purchased a puppy that is suppose to be healthy. I bought her in good faith. I had planned to show her and that is impossible with this condition. To keep her and have the operation she needs done will increase the cost of her to an unacceptable amount for a pet that will require constant medical attention because she will most likely get arthritis. She cant be shown, she cant be bred because it is an inherited thing. You offer a two year health guarantee. I don't understand why you would even feel the need to say you have no hard feelings. That never entered my mind. Its not like we are returning her because we don't like her. On the contrary, she is a wonderful puppy. You did a great job with her. She is everything I wanted and expected except for the bad knee issue. I am truly heart broken about this. I want to cry every time I look at her. I wish things were different. This is NOT how I expected things to turn out.
Maybe your vet doesn't check for things like this when you take the puppies to them. My vet does because she deals with a lot of breeders and people who show their dogs in her practice. As I said she is a specialist, as is her husband. I also want to point out that that vet visit was not free for me. I have more money invested in this puppy than the $550.00 I paid you for her. It cost me $100. each time we came, in gas. I just cant justify any more money spent when she isn't what I was trusting I purchased.
So please let me know if Wed. is still ok to bring her. Either Jeff will take half a day off to go with me or my neighbor will go to help drive so I have to let them know.

This is Why I got upset last night..Never even took her for a second opinion.

[dieselsmummy]

Well, I couldnt help but notice that not once did she call little Abby by her name...only once did she call her a pet...and , well..... I dont wanna say too much here cos Im so cross at this woman. Bridget, you stay strong xxxxxxxxxxx

[adklhasa]

Nancy you made me smile and chuckle at the Toys R US comment. I love it.

As you see in the message I just posted they didn't all have bad words for me. Did give me some credit.

[dieselsmummy]

I know hun, but its all this worry you could do without xxx

[mollymoomoo]

No wonder you were upset last night, that email just shows that it is all about the money, there is no warmth towards Abby, even when she says she's heartbroken, I just don't feel it. Hopefully you'll be able to let them know how wrong they've been about her. It's their loss and Abby will find a lovely new home. xxx

[dieselsmummy]

She will, Im certain of that xxx

[DAISYBELL]

Ahh my heart goes out to her... but she obv. back where's she is loved........ when i got Lulu she came home on the sat. afternoon, i took her to be checked but the vet on the monday morning., he found she had a heart mumur, and a hernia., i loved her more, esp as my Daisy had developed a heart murmur in later life.,(felt she had been trully sent to me), my vet said she could grow out of the heart murmur could be a "puppy thing" and the hernia could be operated on when she spayed as it not that bad.. but... could if i wanted be returned her to breeder.But Ofcourse i had bought her as a pet and member of my family, so no way would i have ever been parted from her. even after 2 days, when she went for her next check the heart murmur gone thank the lord., but she still has the hernia, and when i have her spayed in the next 6 months will have the hernia repaired at the same time., i could have never been swayed to have given her back for not being perfect i love her to bits., "in sickness and in health" as the marriage vows go., same for her.(incidently i did tell her "breeder/step dad!! he was horrified as his vet hadn't found this and was genuinally worried for her,and for me too i must add as he knew all i had been through nursing my Daisy,he was concerned i would have more heartache bless him, although as i said this was never an issue for me as she was mine full stop, health probs an all) xx

[adklhasa]

I have to say that if I know abut the health problem I would have told them. I had a puppy a year or so ago that had a soft palette and might at some point need it repaired. I told the new owner's before they came to get her and gave them the option to get their deposit back. They did take their deposit back after talking with their vet. I ended up placing her as a service dog, she ended up out growing the problem. So it's not like I don't disclose something if I know about.

I had not noticed that she had not called Abby by name...

This is not about the money for me, yes it does help but the dogs come first.

You all are helping to make this bearable and for me to do the right thing.

[mollymoomoo]

Hi Bridget, hope you don't think I meant it was about the money for you :oops: I meant for them! Reading through their email it just struck me how many times they let you know how much money they had spent, money for gas to pick her up, money for vet etc and that they didn't want to spend any more on her.
I think what they should have done at first is ring you to say what their vet had told them so you could both discuss it, agreed for another vet (and not the 1st vets husband) to give a 2nd opinion and then to have taken it from there depending on what the results were. It just seems like they've been too quick to want rid of her and have their money back! :(
Keep your chin up, you've done everything you can, we all know that and you've got our full support! :)

[Bunch]

Im sorry but I have to say it the way I feel.

I also noticed that the name 'Abby' was not used and I too felt that there was not an ounce of feeling in this email - infact it was very tactless and void of any love towards Abby.

FIrst and foremost Bridget I would certainly not have parted with any money until you had Abby checked by your own vet. Abby left you in perfect health and since Abby has been back with you, you have seen no sign of any limps etc. This person is very selfish and all she has done is talk money. She claims that she cried each and every time she looked at Abby ...............well if this true, why worry about the breeding aspect and the showing aspect!!! If she genuinely loved Abby then she would have kept her anyway.

If any of my 3 developed 'anything', I certainly would never dream of getting rid of any of them because I love them so deeply they are locked in my heart - forever.

And as for her saying that she didnt get what she thought she was purchasing ???!!!???? She bought a Lhasa didnt she!!!! She wanted a Lhasa so therefore received a Lhasa.................good god, Abby did not turn out to be a Shar Pei, Doberman or some other breed did she :evil: or am I missing the point here ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) I dont think I am :!: :!: Abby is a Lhasa through and through so yes, she did purchase a Lhasa and nothing less!

I could really blast off here but what would be the point - the most important thing is that Abby is back where she belongs and this is all that matters - back home with the person who loves her the most - you Bridget xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[adklhasa]

molly- can't remember your first name

Yes this is the way it should have been worked out. I would not be so upset if this is the way it had gone.

[adklhasa]

This is my second try at this…my first response was better.

Lia
I have to agree with you 100%.
You remember what I went through last fall with Hobo, some would not have worked with him but look it him now…it was not about how much it cost but how do you make his life a happy and healthy one.

One would wonder what kind of life he would have had with others…

I have a friend/mentor that is following along with me on this. She thinks the person has more going on then the puppy. I tend to agree.

But the main thing is Abby is home, once she gets a clean bill of health she will find a new home.

I have to say that of the 2 puppies I have right now Henry is my pick. He is a cuddle/kisser and Abby is more the Kiss and run puppy. Abby is very much her mother’s daughter, Bailey is the hyper spaze at our house.

[Bunch]

This is my second try at this…my first response was better.

Lia
I have to agree with you 100%.
You remember what I went through last fall with Hobo, some would not have worked with him but look it him now…it was not about how much it cost but how do you make his life a happy and healthy one.

One would wonder what kind of life he would have had with others…

I have a friend/mentor that is following along with me on this. She thinks the person has more going on then the puppy. I tend to agree.

But the main thing is Abby is home, once she gets a clean bill of health she will find a new home.

I have to say that of the 2 puppies I have right now Henry is my pick. He is a cuddle/kisser and Abby is more the Kiss and run puppy. Abby is very much her mother’s daughter, Bailey is the hyper spaze at our house.
Hi Bridget

I hope you are feeling alot better now about this whole situation. I do remember what you went through with Hobo last fall and bless him, he has a wonderful life now. You are right about the cost, I would spend every penny I had to make sure my three had what they needed. As Ive said a few times before, I would starve first before my three would go hungry. We on here are true Lhasa lovers - there is no doubt about this.

Even if this person does have something else 'going on' - it's not Abby's fault and she should never have contemplated having Abby in the first place because Abby's life has been disrupted to say the least and this was not fair at all by her to have inflicted this. Whatever it is that is 'going on' must have started before Abby came into the equation - it just seems rather strange for it all to happen at the same time as when Abby arrived there. It looks as though its the 'wife' that has done all the 'talking' rather than the 'husband' ............she may 'wear the trousers' in their home ;) ;) ;)

Good thing though is that Abby is well out of this situation albeit you could have done without all this rubbish to be honest.

Bruce is like Abby - very sweet indeed but he is sort of a 'kiss and run' Apso too - gives them when he chooses to and not when I want them but thats his character - Honey and Lexi are definitely 'kiss & cuddle' Apsos and will kiss 24/7 if I let them :lol: :lol: :lol:

And Henry.........how's he coming along? Obviously doing very well. At least he will have Abby to play with for a while now. Love Lia xxxxx

[adklhasa]

Yes I"m feeling better about things. Even more so in a couple hours when I get back from the vets.

Henry is doing fine. This big fluff ball, happy go lucky. Going to get pictures I promise this weekend. I wish I could keep him..

[Bunch]

Yes I"m feeling better about things. Even more so in a couple hours when I get back from the vets.

Henry is doing fine. This big fluff ball, happy go lucky. Going to get pictures I promise this weekend. I wish I could keep him..
:P :P :P Cant wait to see the pics xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[adklhasa]

Just got back to work from the vets with Abby. My vet did a complete exam of her legs, made her walk up and down many times so that she could she how she walked.
She said that she tried really hard to find the luxsating petella but could find none.
She would not feed into the game and call the other vet and say this. She told me to move on and know that Abby is fine.

So I will now be on the look out for a nice family for her.

[wol]

So glad Bridget that Abby is ok ............... she is most ceertainly better off away from this woman who was obviously so much more interested in money rather than Abby herself. Thank goodness she is back with you, and as mentioned earlier there will be a special family for her that will give her the love she deserves.
Glad you yourself are feeling better too :D
Take care xxx

[adklhasa]

Yes I am feeling much better.
Abby was so happy get back home she almost jumped out of the car. She was off playing as I was leaving again for work.

I take pride in the quality of my puppies and take it personaliy when someone trys to say that they are not what they are. But that is over now.

Going to move on for all...

[wol]

Good for you Hon................and sounds like Abby is very happy to be home xxx

[dieselsmummy]

What a lovely ending xxx

[Bunch]

Just got back to work from the vets with Abby. My vet did a complete exam of her legs, made her walk up and down many times so that she could she how she walked.
She said that she tried really hard to find the luxsating petella but could find none.
She would not feed into the game and call the other vet and say this. She told me to move on and know that Abby is fine.

So I will now be on the look out for a nice family for her.
All I can say is 'fantastic news'...................and....................... .....' what a stupid woman this person was' ..........her loss - big style!!!! xxxxxxxxx

[Bunch]

Yes I am feeling much better.
Abby was so happy get back home she almost jumped out of the car. She was off playing as I was leaving again for work.

I take pride in the quality of my puppies and take it personaliy when someone trys to say that they are not what they are. But that is over now.

Going to move on for all...
Yep you are correct and Bridget, you carry on doing what you have always done and that is to breed 100% pure quality Lhasa pups!!! And dont let anyone tell you any different!!!!! Thats an order!!! :D :P xxxxxxxxxxxx

[kimpossible]

That's brilliant news! She'll find a better home where she is loved completely! I'm so pleased they were wrong. Poor little mite won't know whether she's coming or going.

If I was you (and remember I can be nasty!) I'd drop a wee e-mail to the folk just to let them know that it was a misdiagnosis and that Abby is fine and has a lovely new home and to thank them for giving her back to you. :twisted:

[dieselsmummy]

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Good plan.........

[adklhasa]

I would love to do just that send them an email but that would only feed into them. We also signed a statement saying that the issue was closed.

So I'm okay knowing that she is okay and that the vet was wrong.

I have to not supe to their level....You never know when it could come back to bite you. Right now all they can say is that I sold them a dog with bad knees, I honored my contract (which they didn't sign) and returned their money in exchange for the puppy. I need to think about how this could effect the future of my dogs and puppies.

[kimpossible]

You could maybe introduce a non-returnable deposit bit so if they bring the dog back then they lose, say $50. It's not much but it might make them think.

[MITCHELLA]

i dont think it will, one person say so against how many good reports from other happy new owners, and you will also have the report from the vets saying abby was miss diagnosed, even so, like youve said you tell folks terms and conditions and if there does happen to be a problem then you refund and take the dog back, which youve done (even though there was nothing wrong with abby anyway) but this just re-enforces you keep your word xxx

[adklhasa]

Lia
I will continue what I'm doing... not a problem there.

I already have a non refundable deposit but that applies if they back out of the purchase prior to pick up.

Pamela
You are so right that this is only the 2 wack job I've dealt with in 50 plus puppies, so all the others giving rave reports make up for the bad one.

I have to say I don't have the vet exam in writing. My vet did the exam and then told me not to worry about the cost. A report was not written. I know that if I need I can get it in writing but I be telling anyone about this. If anyone askes me why I still have her, I plan to say that she had a home but at the last minute they changed their minds..not really streaching the truth.

[wol]

Hi Bridget
I think your right in what you are doing .........there would be no point bringing this up with other future families for Abby. It is better to just put it behind you and as already mentioned one blip out of so many pups is really not so bad . You do what you do well and breed beautiful lhasas to be proud of .
I agree with what Lia said in a previous post ..........."it was the other ladies loss when she returned Abby and most certainly will be someone elses gain "
Take care Hon
Paula xxx

[FosterMom]

That lady sounded like she bought a car from you with a bad engine. How impersonal. In my opinion she would never make a good pet owner ande I feel sorry for the poor souls that she owns now. I wonder if they get any love from this woman because she apparently hasn't got it in her. (Must be a human breeding flaw)

I am so glad Abby is back with you and now you can find a way better home for her. So sorry you had to go through this. Maybe you can send her a copy of the vet's diagnosis and send her the bill too. After all this was an extra expense due to this ladies false accusation.

You are doing a great job with your puppies, don't let this get you down. Good Luck and give Abby a kiss from me & Flower

[adklhasa]

Anj
What really sucks is that she raises horses and has 2 other dogs. She also has an 18 month old son and 2 grown kids.

My vet did not charge me for the visit yesterday and I flexed my time from work. So it all washed.

I know I'm good at what I do, but only takes one person to make you doubt yourself. I'm just glad to put this week behind me..

[Bunch]

Lia
I will continue what I'm doing... not a problem there.

I already have a non refundable deposit but that applies if they back out of the purchase prior to pick up.

Pamela
You are so right that this is only the 2 wack job I've dealt with in 50 plus puppies, so all the others giving rave reports make up for the bad one.

I have to say I don't have the vet exam in writing. My vet did the exam and then told me not to worry about the cost. A report was not written. I know that if I need I can get it in writing but I be telling anyone about this. If anyone askes me why I still have her, I plan to say that she had a home but at the last minute they changed their minds..not really streaching the truth.
Bridget, you would be correct in NOT stretching out the story - there is no point at all in this. This is your private business if anyone asks - Im sure there are lots of 'last minute' cancellations anyway...........'chin up' girl, we all know you are correct!! And we all you love still the same xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mollymoomoo]

I just typed a reply out and it's gone - looks like I'm having pc problems again :( Anyhoo, what I wrote was basically - I'm really pleased that Abby got the all clear from the vets, pity your vet wouldn't call theirs to let them know that there hadn't been a problem but the main thing is that Abby's back home, healthy and happy and with the chance to have a lovely new home :D !xxx
Hope this sends ok! :D

[Bunch]

Anj
What really sucks is that she raises horses and has 2 other dogs. She also has an 18 month old son and 2 grown kids.

My vet did not charge me for the visit yesterday and I flexed my time from work. So it all washed.

I know I'm good at what I do, but only takes one person to make you doubt yourself. I'm just glad to put this week behind me..
:-P :-P Hey, listen up here Bridget :-D ................none of us on here doubt you - never have, never will - and if anyone ever does :evil: , think of us, your freinds on this forum, who will always give you 100% support. :-D Love Lia xxxxxx

[Bunch]

I just typed a reply out and it's gone - looks like I'm having pc problems again :( Anyhoo, what I wrote was basically - I'm really pleased that Abby got the all clear from the vets, pity your vet wouldn't call theirs to let them know that there hadn't been a problem but the main thing is that Abby's back home, healthy and happy and with the chance to have a lovely new home :D !xxx
Hope this sends ok! :D
:-P :-P Agree 100% here on this one xxxxxxxxxxxx

[Bunch]

That lady sounded like she bought a car from you with a bad engine. How impersonal. In my opinion she would never make a good pet owner ande I feel sorry for the poor souls that she owns now. I wonder if they get any love from this woman because she apparently hasn't got it in her. (Must be a human breeding flaw)

I am so glad Abby is back with you and now you can find a way better home for her. So sorry you had to go through this. Maybe you can send her a copy of the vet's diagnosis and send her the bill too. After all this was an extra expense due to this ladies false accusation.

You are doing a great job with your puppies, don't let this get you down. Good Luck and give Abby a kiss from me & Flower
:-P :-P Again I agree whole heartedly! I could go on but think I had better not xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[adklhasa]

Lia and all

Thank you. You are so good and supportive. Nice to have a place to go when you are feeling beat up and down.

The sun has come out for the first time this week...things are loooking up.

[Bunch]

Lia and all

Thank you. You are so good and supportive. Nice to have a place to go when you are feeling beat up and down.

The sun has come out for the first time this week...things are loooking up.
:-D :-D :-D Sun, sun, sun...dont we all just love the sun..............thats when we can get it over here :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Good luck to you Bridget................another day, another tomorrow...................life goes on and you have alot of good life ahead of you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx